Saturday, August 28, 2010

What If...? #2

I heard that Six Flags Dubailand is building a B&M Dive Machine with their park called Screamin' Eagle. I've seen some concept art and it looks so cool! So now this topic is...:

What if... a Six Flags park in America will clone this coaster or add a Dive Machine to that particular Six Flags park for the 2012 season? Again, I'd like to remind you that this is just speculation. This will probably not happen. Or probably WILL happen. Who knows? So what Six Flags park in America would add a new B&M Dive Machine for the 2012 season?

Six Flags America could probably be ruled out (even though I hope not). I heard a rumor that a Tony Hawk's Big Spin clone could be coming to SFA in 2011 (though with Shapiro out, I'm not sure), so don't really expect much in 2012. I'm ruling out Six Flags Great Adventure since they're getting Chang for 2011 and possibly some flats, so don't expect much, if anything at all, for 2012. Six Flags New England is rumored for a new coaster for 2011, so that's ruled out too. I'm also ruling out Six Flags Over Georgia, since they're also rumored for a new coaster in 2011. Six Flags Over Texas can be ruled out too, because they're throwing in a lot of money on the Texas Giant refurbishment. Six Flags St. Louis is rumored for a Screamin' Eagle refurbishment, but I'm not ruling this out yet. It seems like a possibility, but not the MOST possible. Six Flags Fiesta Texas is rumored to refurbish Rattler in the 2010-2012 time period, so I'm probably going to rule this out too. Great Escape isn't rumored for much, so IDK. Six Flags Discovery Kingdom seems possible, but I'm not sure honestly. La Ronde just added Ednor from AstroWorld, so probably not. Mexico, I don't know why... but I doubt it.

So... who's left...? Six Flags Magic Mountain and Six Flags Great America. I'll first start with SFGAm (which, BTW, was rumored for a Dive Machine for 2009 along with SFGAdv).

Recently, rumor has it that 2012 will bring a new coaster. In 2011, they are getting a water park expansion (at least, that's what I think). BTW, if you haven't been following this, I'll post the updates so far:

2012 - New Ride - Rumor - (8/27/10) The early rumors for 2012 still claim that the park is right on track to finally get a new big coaster once again. No word on just what it might be yet, so stay tuned.
(8/3/10) It’s been some time, but there is an early rumor suggesting that a new coaster may finally be on the way to the park for 2012. The only problem is… it’s not expected to “the big one” that everyone has been hoping to get for some time now. After all, the last big coaster added to the park was back in 2003! A decade is a long time to wait for a new large coaster my friends…
(7/22/10) According to one reader, they spotted survey crews doing work in the former Splashwater Falls area. Looks like they may be working on something here after all, but for 2012 or 2011?
(7/19/10) Remember that rumor about a new flume ride in development for the park? If the latest rumor is true, they could be speaking to Mack about building a new Super Splash ride for them to replace the old Splashwater Falls ride for as early as 2012. More when we find out.


2011 - New Attraction(s) - Rumor - (8/27/10) SFGAm has posted a teaser for a 2011 announcement to their Facebook page that looks like a Puzzle. While they promise to remove a piece at a time as clues to the new attraction, one of our readers (credit to squirrelnut1416) did some URL digging and discovered that the image files were hosted on another site, and stupidly dated to match the day they would be uncovered. Daily files from the first day all the way through to August 31st were discovered on a host server, all easily accessed by the public from the too-easy to decipher file names.
All these files were hosted on the HFConcepts.com website (HeadFirst Concepts, a marketing and social media company... but one apparently not used to today’s ARG playing web-savvy coaster enthusiasts.) During the course of the day, the files have since been removed, but I did see the final image file myself first hand as well. Most of it was still covered up, but it was clear that the new addition is for Hurricane Harbor (you could make out part of the palm tree logo) where the top tag line read something to the extent of “The best water”, “just got bigger”. Then there is something about a new slide that will have a “near vertical” feature.
(8/5/10) The latest rumors suggest that SFGAm will make their 2011 on or near September 1st. On top of the rumored new project for the former Splash Water Falls site, we’ve heard a few rehabs and upgrade rumors are also being talked about such as some kind of ‘re-birth’ of for The Demon, new paint on Superman and Batmat (the later may get the identical paint job that SFMM’s version got last year), and possibly the return of backwards riding on American Eagle. All rumors still… but they all sound good too.
(8/3/10) The latest rumors from SFGAm suggest that the rumored waterpark expansion in 2011 could be delayed in favor of something new to take over the former Splash Water Falls site.
(6/22/10) Screamscape sources have confirmed that Chang is now no longer being planned for the park in 2011. New expansion plans are currently in the works and seem to involve the same basic plot of land… but with a focus on expanding Hurricane Harbor instead. Nothing has been finalized yet it seems, as all the plans are still in the air, though we have heard of one plan to add a water-coaster style slide to the park, possibly similar in style to the Wildebeest slide added to Holiday World this year. More as we find out.
(6/21/10) A new rumor has come up over the weekend at SFGAdv (New Jersey) that claims that the park may now be planning to replace their Great American Scream Machine coaster with CHANG. Up until now Chang has been all but confirmed for Six Flags Great America, with even a few pieces and the trains already spotted on site. The meetings to obtain the needed height variance permit are all but over... with the final approval meeting expected to take place today... Monday, June 21st.
While I haven’t seen it myself, I’ve heard a rumor that the Six Flags issue may have been unexpectedly removed from the agenda for tonight’s meeting, which only adds fuel to the fire that Chang could now be looking for a new home. Of course the online version of the agenda still shows it there, waiting to be finalized. I had been told that as soon as Al Weber took control of Six Flags, he began to made huge and immediate changes to the plans set in place for the 2011 season by Shaprio. I guess we’ll know more once the Monday meeting is over if the proposal to add Chang has been dropped or not. Stay tuned!
(5/3/09) According to a reader, some small Orange survey flags have been spotted in the area near the Sky Trek Tower, the Go-Karts and through the Space Shuttle America area. This is where the rumored expansion of Hurricane Harbor was rumored to be going so there could possibly be a connection.
(6/26/08) Screamscape sources have reinforced that Six Flags Great America will focus on expanding Hurricane Harbor in the near future, adding at least one major new attraction to the water park. However… I’ve also heard that they are thinking about turning the waterpark into a “second gate” where it will no longer be included free with your daily admission to Six Flags Great America. If I had to guess, they’ll probably add something that they’ve tested out at another park… so if I had to guess I’d be looking at either a Tony Hawk’s Halfpipe slide like what was added to Six Flags America in 2008 or if your lucky, a copy of Deluge, the hydromagnetic powered water coaster.


The water park expansion is rumored to take over the SSA site (where Chang was supposed to go up before it got sent to Great Adventure), and a new ride is rumored to take over the Splashwater Falls site. I also remember reading a rumor that the Go-Karts would get relocated to the old Splashwater Falls site. Let's say the water park expansion ends up going up somewhere else (like rerouting Six Flags Blvd around American Eagle, which frees up a lot of land), a Dive Machine (like Screamin' Eagle) can fit nicely in the old SSA site and relocate the Go-Karts to the SWF site, and that frees up a lot of land. They can even retheme that whole area altogether to accompany the new Dive Machine (and relocate the Sky Trek tower entrance). I also know of this rumor:

???? - Whizzer Replacement - Rumor - (7/19/10) Lots of interesting rumors were sent in regarding the possible future of SFGAm. This is all more long-term planning rumors, and nothing that is going to happen right away, so all of this can be taken with the grain of salt, as ideas constantly change as time goes by.
First off the disappointing news what we all knew would come someday. Yes… the Whizzer is going to close… someday. I know we’ve heard that rumor almost every year for the last decade or so, but the honest truth is that it is going to happen someday… sooner than we would like to think. It’s well know that the Whizzer is not only old, but difficult to get spare parts for, so most of the time they have to have stuff custom made, which isn’t cheap. The good news however is that in an attempt to be a little proactive, Six Flags is said to have asked Mack to look into recreating the Whizzer’s layout for when the time comes to replace it, they could possibly build an all new version for everyone to enjoy. Again… this is just something rumored to have been looked at, and there is no word if this was something done under Shapiro’s era or Weber’s new regime.


Say this was done under Shapiro's era and not Weber, they could probably build the Dive Machine in that spot too (even though I hope not... we need to spare the classics).

As for Magic Mountain, there have been rumors of a "Project 18." I still say this is for a new coaster, because there are 17 now, and with another one, there's 18. I also have this feeling that the rumored Tidal Wave removal might have some connection and that the coaster (let's say a Dive Machine like Screamin' Eagle) could interact a bit with Riddler's Revenge and also take over the old Freefall site.

Another possibility is Cyclone Bay. The recent new coasters (Terminator Salvation and Mr. Six's DanceCoaster) have gone up in that section. What if this is all a part of a 3-coaster expansion of that portion of the park? Terminator Salvation in 2009, Mr. Six in 2011, and an unknown coaster for 2012 (let's say Dive Machine) (which is the main weapon). There's some land behind Deja Vu (IDK if it's owned by the park or not). There's also a possibility of removing one of the coasters (I hope not though).

Deja Vu could be removed (since it's the only Deja Vu left, and was originally going to be removed with the other two). If it does, it opens a plethora of land, perfect for a Dive Machine (and possibly use that "Explore" themed land concept).

Ninja. Seems rather doubtful, but again THIS IS JUST SPECULATION!!!! Recently Arrow Suspended coasters have been disappearing (Big Bad Wolf and Eagle's Fortress are examples). If this is gone, it opens a plot of land. Maybe not for a Dive Machine, but for something.

Viper. With it being one of the only Arrow Mega-Loopers left, this does seem like a possibility. If it goes, it opens a decent-looking plot of land. Not to mention, if a Dive Machine goes up, it would look pretty cool next to X2. =D

I personally prefer either my Tidal Wave idea or my Cyclone Bay idea (without replacing Deja Vu) (they can even relocate the backstage area (behind Vu) by Viper or X2).

EDIT: I now realize that removing one of the coasters is not a possibility. It will destroy the purpose of "Project 18."

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